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Elections of Moderator & Stated Clerk

 

The Moderator

Joan Gray elected as Moderator    [6-15-06, 11:20 pm CDT)

After presentations from the four candidates for moderator of the PC(USA), and an hour of their responding to questions from commissioners and Youth Advisory Delegates, the General Assembly has just elected the Rev. Joan Gray as its new Moderator.

She was elected on the third ballot, by a vote of 307 to 152 for the Rev. Deborah Block, 20 for the Rev. Tim Halverson, and 19 for the Rev. Kerry Carson.

The first round of votes was remarkably close: Block received 143, Gray 139, Halverson 113, and Carson 109.

See also the Presbyterian News Service report on the election of Joan Gray >>

More about Joan Grey: a "polity wonk" who sees hope for the church in "a burning passion for God"
[6-16-06, 1:30 am CDT]

For some background on Joan Grey, you might look at her responses to the questions submitted by the Witherspoon Society to her and the other three moderatorial candidates.

Gray has served seven churches in the Atlanta area, most recently as interim pastor of College Park Presbyterian Church.

She has filled leadership positions at the presbytery and General Assembly levels of the PC(USA). She was moderator of Greater Atlanta presbytery for one term, and has served on numerous presbytery committees.

She has co-authored Presbyterian Polity for Church Officers, and is known as an expert on church polity, having served on the GA Advisory Committee on the Constitution, Moderator of the Permanent Judicial Commission, Presbytery Council, and much more. She has held teaching positions as adjunct faculty at Columbia Theological Seminary and Johnson C. Smith Seminary, as well as teaching in the Princeton Theological Seminary Continuing Education program. She has also served in pastoral ministry in seven different congregations.

Nevertheless, in her opening statement to the General Assembly, she made clear that "polity is not going to save us." She told of her own experiences in working for the healing of "some congregations so broken I almost despaired. But when we broadened our focus and threw ourselves on the mercy of God, we began to move forward."

Responding to questions

In the one hour allotted for questioning the candidates, with each of them responding to each of the ten questions, Gray offered some interesting answers.

Asked about how she would work to fulfill the long-standing PC(USA) commitment to becoming a multicultural church, she spoke of her own experience with multicultural congregations, and of how those experiences have led her to love people from other cultures.

One questioner cited the Presbyterian conviction the "Jesus Christ is the way of salvation," asking how the candidates would deal with this claim. While Halverson and Carson both gave simple affirmations of that claim, Block spoke of a window in her church with the words "The lamps are many, the light is one."  Gray said "there are two things I hold in tension: Jesus Christ is the way, and I will not limit God’s freedom. I draw on Jesus as the well which sustains me," but she did not seem to rule out the possibility of other sources of water.

A Youth Advisory Delegate asked very directly about their stance on the ordination of "openly gay Presbyterians." Gray began by affirming her respect for gay people, but immediately added, "I can’t get my head around [the possibility of ordination] in light of the Biblical faith. I’m uncomfortable with this [by which she seemed to mean the exclusion of lgbt Presbyterians], and I’ve decided to be comfortable with being uncomfortable." She then added that as Moderator, she would act in accordance with the Constitution.

Among the other three candidates, Halverson and Carson were both clear in saying that they would not support gay ordination; Deborah Block offered some support for the idea of giving presbyteries the right to make determinations on candidates’ qualifications for ordination, but offered absolutely no support for efforts to delete G-6.0106b.

Your humble reporter is not quite sure what to make of this, but our lgbt friends here are not feeling hopeful tonight, and, it would seem, with good reason.

In talking with a few people after the election, your reporter found general agreement that most of the questions asked, and most of the answers given, offered little in the way of inspiration or insight.

We can be thankful for this afternoon’s announcement of a gift of $150,000,000 dollars to the PC(USA), but tonight’s election, and the candidates’ presentations before the vote, does not inspire hope. Progressives and their organizations will be challenged to think with more creativity, plan with more intention, and work with more dedication, if our church is to recover some of its historic commitment to mission for peace and justice.

Candidates for Moderator respond to
Witherspoon questions

[Posted 5-2-06 by Doug King for Witherspoon Society]

One of the first acts of the 217th General Assembly will be the election of a new Moderator. To help our readers weigh this important choice, the Witherspoon Society has invited each of the four candidates to respond briefly to five questions that reflect Witherspoon concerns – and, we believe, the concerns of the wider church.

For background news reports on the four candidates >>

With gratitude to the candidates for their cooperation in responding, we are happy to share their comments here, presenting them in alphabetical order.

They are:

bulletDeborah Block
bulletKerry Carson
bulletJoan Gray
bulletTimothy Halverson

The five questions were:

1. It seems likely that the coming General Assembly will be shaped by its response to the report of the Theological Task Force on the Peace, Unity and Purity of the Church. What would you like to see as the outcome of the discussion of this report? Specifically, how do you respond to Part V, recommendation 5, with its proposed authoritative interpretation of G-6.0108, and recommendation 6, with its call for no further action during the 217th Assembly on "any of the major issues in the task force’s report, including Christology, biblical interpretation, essential tenets, and sexuality and ordination."

2. Related to this, what are your thoughts on the 22 overtures coming to the Assembly, calling for the removal of G-6.0106b and related authoritative interpretations from the Book of Order?

3. Some have asserted that our church is deeply divided, and they have raised the possibility of leaving the PC(USA), or declaring a "constitutional crisis," if the Task Force’s Recommendation 5 is adopted. How would you address this concern?"

4. A major debate has been going on since 2004, concerning the action of the 216th Assembly that called for study of the possibility of divestment from some corporations doing business in ways that have supported the Israeli occupation of Palestine, and Palestinian acts of terrorism. Various overtures to this Assembly will call for abandoning that effort, or continuing it, or modifying it in some way. What do you think we should do at this point?

5. The actions and policies of the United States in relation to the use of torture have concerned many of us. There will be overtures urging further investigation into American use of torture, and into the responsibility of higher officers of government and the military. How do you believe the Assembly should deal with these proposals?

 



The Rev. Deborah A. Block

Pastor of Immanuel Presbyterian Church,
Milwaukee, Presbytery of Milwaukee

Web site:  http://www.deborahblock.org/

On the report of the Theological Task Force on the Peace, Unity and Purity of the Church.

I hope that this General Assembly will be shaped by the Theological Task Force on the Peace, Unity and Purity of the Church by imitating its spirit of respectful, faithful engagement. Before we consider outcomes of the Assembly, I have a concern for the "in-come," what we bring to this General Assembly. We commissioners are not to represent our presbyteries or congregations, aren’t delegated by our affinity groups. This calls for a disciplined commitment to open-minded, open-hearted discernment and deliberation. I hope that we will come to this Assembly fully prepared and not fully positioned, ready and willing to seek God’s agenda for us.

The report deserves a well-informed discussion in committee and on the floor, born of thorough reading and ruminating, not rumor. I respect the unanimity of the task force. If the Assembly adopts the report, the recommendations together allow the intent of #5 to be worked in the life of the church. Recommendation 5 calls us to renew our commitment to the historic principles that define Presbyterians. It lifts up some essential strengths of our polity. I’m willing to exercise them toward the horizon of a healthier, more whole, body.

On the overtures calling for the removal of G-6.0106b.

There is a clear voice from 22 presbyteries calling for the removal of G-6.0106b and related authoritative interpretations. That voice is a lament over the exclusion of called, gifted, and qualified lgbt Presbyterians and it is a significant witness to the rest of the church. I, too, believe that God makes "no distinction" in calling and equipping persons for discipleship and ministry. Twenty-eight years as a woman in ministry and a deepening familiarity with the story of women’s ordination make me acutely aware of long and yet hopeful journeys toward our baptismal unity and equality. Clergywomen have lived "justice delayed" after justice was denied in 1920 and 1930 (when women were granted the constitutional right to be ordained as elders but not ministers) and even when justice was granted in 1956. Both the insertion of G-6.0106b and efforts for its removal have been painful and polarizing, but I will testify to what I see and hear as a pastor. Preaching, teaching, prayer, study, and example are making a difference. The Spirit is at work. When Bibles open, hearts and minds open and church doors open.

On suggestions of some about leaving the PC(USA) or declaring a "constitutional crisis."

As a pastor, I am called to invite all persons to the table. As Moderator, I would affirm that all Presbyterians belong at the tables of our life together and work to keep us there in a fair and faithful conversation. We should question the "deeply divided" diagnosis, not dismissing the seriousness of our differences, but not resigning to pessimistic scenarios.

On divestment from some corporations doing business in ways that support the Israeli occupation of Palestine, and Palestinian acts of terrorism.

That the action of the 216th GA came as such a surprise to both Presbyterians and Jews raises a prior question about procedure and communication around decisions that will have impact on both the denomination and the larger community. Were voices from all perspectives heard? Was there enough time to make and interpret a decision of this magnitude? I’ve been involved since then in Presbyterian-Jewish dialog groups at the local and national level, but I still have many questions about divestment, and more that I want to learn about positive investment. What does it mean to be pro-peace in this complex context? I want the Presbyterian Church (USA) to be a peacemaking force in the world and work for justice and healing for all victims. I regret that we didn’t have an Assembly this past summer to deal with this very issue, and I welcome the opportunity before us to consider how we go forward.

On U.S. use of torture.

Our presbytery unanimously passed a Presbyterian Initiative Against Torture overture. We hope that the Assembly will support this call for action and awareness and add its voice to our concern.
 


The Rev. Kerry Carson

Pastor of First Presbyterian Church, Conrad, Iowa,
North Central Iowa Presbytery

Web site: www.kerrycarson.com

On the report of the Theological Task Force on the Peace, Unity and Purity of the Church.

One of the gifts to the church from the Theological Task Force is the thoughtful and respectful approach they used in their work together. I would hope those qualities would characterize our work at General Assembly on their report and all our actions as well. Part "e" of Recommendation #5 states: "all parties should endeavor to outdo one another in honoring one another’s decisions . . .". For me, that means living out in community the life we have been called to in Jesus Christ. In other words, how we treat one another in times of discussion and/or disagreement, as well as how we honor decisions once they are made is one of the clearest ways we witness to our faith.

When the General Assembly meets, we recognize that God calls us to faithful service and witness. As we seek to discern God’s will for the PCUSA, we will listen to hear God’s Word faithfully and with the refreshing, life-giving wind of the Spirit speaking truth in love. It is the spirit behind our motto: "Reformed, always being reformed." Therefore, the Assembly will determine whether to adopt Recommendation #6 or take additional action.

On the overtures calling for the removal of G-6.0106b.

Ordination standards and the authoritative interpretations that define them continue to be an issue before the PCUSA. The overtures coming to the 217th General Assembly provide a new opportunity to appropriately revisit the issue. It is my hope that we will do so seeking to honor one another and our constitution in the process, both during and after the Assembly.

On suggestions of some about leaving the PC(USA) or declaring a "constitutional crisis."

There are people who are saying they will leave if Recommendation #5 passes and those who will leave if it does not pass. There is hurt and frustration on many sides of this and other issues facing the PCUSA. In difficult times, I am reminded that the God who calls us is faithful in providing everything necessary for us to serve in the building of Christ’s Kingdom on earth. It is God who can reconcile differences, heal relationships, and renew our calling to serve Jesus Christ by serving one another "with all our heart, soul, mind and strength." If elected as the Moderator of the 217th General Assembly, I will work to help facilitate experiencing God’s presence in the midst of our work, our decisions, our worship and our disagreements.

On divestment from some corporations doing business in ways that support the Israeli occupation of Palestine, and Palestinian acts of terrorism.

The PCUSA has taken an active interest in the Middle East for most of our history. From sending mission personnel and working with partner churches to working for peace with justice, education, health, and ending poverty and hunger, we have historically sought to be a healing influence for all people in the region. Since 1948, our church has affirmed the right of Israel to exist, alongside a neighboring, independent, sovereign state for Palestinians.

The question of divestment must be seen in the context of this balanced approach to peace in the Middle East. For me, it is always appropriate for us to ask if the businesses we are invested in at home are acting in a consistent way with our mission goals abroad. It is also appropriate to listen to and work with our mission partners to shape a lasting peace in the Middle East. My hope is, as we seek to discern our next steps in our mission and investment goals and activities, that we do so through thoughtful, quiet and respectful conversation with ourselves and with our partners in both areas.

On U.S. use of torture.

The global "War on Terror" and the conduct of our government with regard to our prisoners of war provides an opportunity to witness to our faith in God as Creator, Jesus Christ as Prince of Peace, and the Holy Spirit as the "Breath of Life." I believe the General Assembly, consistent with our current policy, should:

• continue to affirm the honorable performance of our military in the rebuilding of Iraq and the security of the United States of America

• urge our governmental officials to develop safe-guards that will help prevent torture and abuse of prisoners

• declare that valuing human life by maintaining the dignity and just treatment of our prisoners is consistent with the Gospel found in Jesus Christ.

I would encourage the Assembly to maintain these current commitments.

 


The Rev. Joan S. Gray

Most recently interim pastor of College Park Presbyterian Church,
Presbytery of Greater Atlanta

Web site:  www.therevjoansgray.org

On the report of the Theological Task Force on the Peace, Unity and Purity of the Church.

Voting recommendation 5 from the Peace, Unity and Purity report either up or down will not solve our denomination’s conflict around the question of what constitutes Godly sexuality. Instead, I would like us to focus on recommendation # 2 of the Task Force report and use it to shape a new process of discerning God’s will on these matters. What we really need is a more faithful, graceful, and courageous way of living together in the midst of our conflict until the day when God’s Spirit brings us into one mind about how to interpret the Bible on issues of sexuality. If the Assembly does follow the call to discernment as proposed in recommendation 2, it is important that means be found to involve all Presbyterians who have a stake in this matter in that process without putting them at personal risk.

As for recommendation 6, I do not see the value of tying the Assembly’s hands on these or any other matters. I trust the Holy Spirit to move the Assembly to take up whatever pieces of business it believes to be in the best interest of the church, whether recommendation 5 passes or not.

On the overtures calling for the removal of G-6.0106b.

I know that G-6.0106b is very painful to many members of our church, especially gay and lesbian Presbyterians. I am also aware, however, that our denomination is very much at odds over how to deal with issues concerning the sexuality of ordained persons in the life of the church. Due to the severity of this division I cannot be in favor of answering these overtures in the affirmative.

On suggestions of some about leaving the PC(USA) or declaring a "constitutional crisis."

In my estimation the idea of declaring a constitutional crisis if recommendation 5 passes verges on the hysterical. Our polity provides clear process by which those who are unhappy with the decisions of any governing body may work to have those decisions reversed. Those who disagree with whatever happened at GA regarding the Task Force report should avail themselves of that process. On the question of leaving the church, every Presbyterian has the freedom of conscience to decide for him or herself when he or she can no longer in good conscience remain in the PC(USA). However, those in leadership in the church would do well to remember that breaking apart the body of Christ except in situations of clear and serious apostasy is a very grave sin and breaks the heart of Jesus.

On divestment from some corporations doing business in ways that support the Israeli occupation of Palestine, and Palestinian acts of terrorism.

I have some questions about the overall effectiveness of divestment as a strategy for social change. However, for a moral compass on this issue I go with some wisdom I heard from a former Presbyterian mission worker in the Middle East : "We should divest from those things that make for war and invest in those thing that make for peace." In order to know which is which our church should engage in a serious process of study, discernment, and prayer. Listening to both Israelis and Palestinians should be at the heart of how we figure out what God is calling us to do to be instruments of peace in the Middle East.

On U.S. use of torture.

Torture is abhorrent to any right thinking Christian and to any citizen who truly prizes democracy. I hope the General Assembly will continue to speak strongly against the use of torture for any purpose whatsoever by the US or any other government. The possibly of being killed, or worse, having someone I love killed in a terrorist action is part of the price I calculate when I say this. It is a price I am willing to pay in order to be a civilized human being, let alone a Christian.



The Rev. H. Timothy Halverson

Faith Presbyterian Church, Cape Coral, FL,
Peace River Presbytery

Web site: www.faithcapecoral.org


On the report of the Theological Task Force on the Peace, Unity and Purity of the Church.

The outcome for which I pray is that the report of the Theological Task Force on the Peace, Unity and Purity of the Church (PUP) will unite the General Assembly. The goal of this task force is to present "not a finished or perfect product, but a starting point" (line 1015) that would allow everyone to remain at the table. I hope that this report is viewed as an important first step in the process of genuine discernment rather than an ultimate irreversible and divisive ruling. Fostering peace, unity and purity mandates courage, strength and patience as we live inside the tension of diversity and spiritual growth.

I support PUP. I support Recommendation 5 and Recommendation 6 because I believe they provide a space for our denomination to stand within that tension.

On the overtures calling for the removal of G-6.0106b.

If PUP is adopted, including Recommendation 6, the 22 overtures should not be acted upon.

On suggestions of some about leaving the PC(USA) or declaring a "constitutional crisis."

Recommendation 4 speaks to the need to "explore the use of alternative forms of discernment and decision-making as a complement to parliamentary procedure, especially in dealing with potentially divisive issues." My concern is that a winner-takes-all parliamentary approach is against the spirit of PUP and would thus have the potential to further divide us.

I hope PUP passes by an overwhelming majority. If, however, PUP passes by only a narrow margin, I fear that many will perceive that ratification by the presbyteries was intentionally by-passed in order to achieve victory. If we attend GA with the idea of winning, if we attend GA believing that PUP "must" or "must not" pass, we will be deaf to the Holy Spirit and the Church of Jesus Christ will be the big loser.

If PUP passes by a super-majority, I shall see it as the work of the Holy Spirit and, if elected Moderator, I will be its strong supporter. If PUP passes by a narrow majority, I shall seek the spirit of Recommendation 4, so that we can agree on a process of discernment and decision-making that allows us to leave the Assembly more united than we are today.

On divestment from some corporations doing business in ways that support the Israeli occupation of Palestine, and Palestinian acts of terrorism.

The PC(USA) must develop a consistent ethic both for investment and divestment; modern market capitalism requires such responsibility. At the same time, we are called to realize that justice transcends economics. Scripture teaches us that justice is relational… and that requires long, hard and tedious work. This is the work of reconciliation that confronts Palestinians and Israelis.

The unintended consequence of the 216th General Assembly action on divestment has been to hurt our relationship with the Jewish community, which understands our action as punitive rather than restorative. The Jewish community believes that it alone was singled out and that our failure to condemn militant Islamic extremism is a grievous omission.

At this point, the divestment issue with Israel should be rescinded. Israel does have a biblical theology of responsibility to the alien and marginalized that morally obligates its participation in seeking a peace with justice, and it is difficult to imagine, however, that divestment can serve to enable Israel’s moral obligations.

On U.S. use of torture.

William Sloane Coffin (Credo, pg. 20) tells the story of a beggar in 16th century Paris who, desperately ill, was about to be operated upon by a group of doctors. One of the doctors, certain that his patient did not understand Latin, said, "Faciamus experimentum in anima vile." ("Let us experiment on this vile fellow.") The beggar, an impoverished student who would later become the renowned poet Marc Antoine Muret, replied from the slab on which they had placed him, "Animam vilem appellas pro qua Christus non dedignatus mori est?" ("Will you call vile one for whom Christ did not disdain to die?").

Torture is wrong. Torture violates the Christ in us and the Christ in our neighbor. Torture not only dehumanizes those who are tortured but also the torturer. The General Assembly can say no less.
 

NOTE:  The last paragraph of Rev. Timothy Halverson's response (just above) was omitted in our editing; we apologize!  Our thanks to him for catching the omission.

Candidates for Moderator

The four ministers who have been endorsed by their presbyteries for Moderator of the 217thGeneral Assembly have all responded to a set of five questions from the Witherspoon Society, to give them the opportunity to express their views on some of the more urgent concerns of our church today.

The Presbyterian News Service has released stories on each of the candidates as they have been endorsed by their presbyteries.

You may want to look at those stories to learn a little of their background.

The Rev. Kerry Carson, from North Central Iowa Presbytery

The Rev. H. Timothy (Tim) Halverson, from Peace River Presbytery

The Rev. Deborah A. Block, from the Presbytery of Milwaukee

The Rev. Joan S. Gray, from the Presbytery of Greater Atlanta

[Posted by Doug King, 4-21-06]

 

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