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San Jose, CA  --  June 21-28, 2008

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Committee 05 -- Church Orders and Ministry

The task of the Committee:

Consider matters related to: Amendments to Chapter VI of the Form of Government with Advisory Committee on the Constitution advice; requests for interpretation; recruiting, enlistment of persons to service of church.

The 218th General Assembly has opened doors to a new future for the Presbyterian Church

Let’s help the PC(USA) move through those doors!
[from the Witherspoon Society, 7-24-08]

Gene TeSelle, Witherspoon Issues Analyst, writes:  "The actions of the 2008 General Assembly suggest that the tide has turned in the Presbyterian Church. ..."

He analyzes the significant steps toward making the ordination process more open and fair, looks at the announced plans of the Presbyterian Right to oppose those steps, and suggests ways we might move forward to bring a truly inclusive church closer to reality during the months ahead, as presbyteries will be considering their responses to the proposed amendments to the Book of Order.

The full article, along with other helpful material >>

Don Stroud summarizes General Assembly actions on Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender (LGBT) issues   [7-17-08]

A long-time leader in That All May Freely Serve, Stroud opens his thorough analysis with this comment: 

As an observer and advocate for LGBT issues at the 218th General Assembly (GA) meeting in San Jose, CA, June 21-28, 2008, it is my assessment that the 218th GA took decisive positive actions to begin to dismantle the oppressive, long divisive and debilitating homophobia that has plagued the PC(USA) as a denomination for the past thirty years.

Following a helpful explanation of some of the terms that were used in the discussions, he deals with the Assembly’s actions:
•      on the ordination and/or installation of LGBT members,
•      on the Overture from John Knox Presbytery to provide an “authoritative interpretation” on the 217th GA’s AI on G-6.0108, commonly called the “scruple process” for individual candidates for ordination and/or installation,
•      on various overtures to correct the translation problems of the Heidelberg Catechism,
•      and on overtures to amend the Directory for Worship regarding the definition of marriage, and to affirm equal rights for families of same-gender partners and call for an in-depth study on marriage.

The full report is available in PDF format >>

PC(USA) Department of Constitutional Services offers advisory opinions on GA actions     [7-11-08]

The Department of Constitutional Services, part of the Office of the General Assembly, has issued an Advisory Opinion which states what actions of the 218th GA, dealing with Book of Order provisions G-6.0106b and G-6.0108, are taking effect immediately, and which ones, as constitutional amendments, must be approved by a majority of the presbyteries before they might take effect.

Briefly, the new Authoritative Interpretation of G-6.0106b has gone into effect immediately following the Assembly. That means that earlier AIs, beginning with 1978 and 1979, which state that “[f]or the church to ordain a self-affirming, practicing homosexual person to ministry would be to act in contradiction to its charter and calling in Scripture,” are no longer in effect.

However, the “fidelity and chastity” requirement set forth in G-6.0106b does remain in effect, until it is removed from the Book of Order by the approval of a majority of the presbyteries. That action must be taken within one year from the conclusion of the 218th General Assembly.

The Authoritative Interpretation of G-6.0108 also takes effect immediately. This allows a candidate for ordination to declare a departure (or “scruple”) from a standard of either belief or practice on grounds of conscience. It is still a matter for the examining body to “give prayerful and careful consideration, on an individual, case-by-case basis,” to any such departure – but the recent GAPJC decision in the case of Bush v. Presbytery of Pittsburgh, which rejected any departure in matters of behavior, is invalidated.

The full Advisory Opinions note >>

Assembly takes major steps toward full inclusion of lgbt Presbyterians

by Gene TeSelle, Witherspoon Issues Analyst  [6-30-08]

Committee 5 on Church Orders and Ministry reported three issues in their logical order, and the committee's recommendations were followed by the Assembly as a whole.

1. It overwhelmingly approved the overture from Scioto Valley, with many concurrences from other presbyteries, to direct the Stated Clerk to collect or develop "best practices" for the examination of candidates.

2. It approved, by a vote of 53 to 47 percent, the John Knox overture, an AI designed to correct the decision of the General Assembly's Permanent Judicial Commission (PJC) that the "fidelity and chastity" sentence in G-6.0106b is binding and cannot be "scrupled."

3. The most heated debate was over the Boston overture to replace the language of G-6.0106b with new language, and to adopt a new AI declaring that past AIs concerning "ordained service of homosexual church members" (starting with the "definitive guidance" of 1978/79 in the two churches and including the AI of 1993) have "no further force or effect."

More >>

A time for joy

Following the Assembly's actions opening new possibilities for ordination of lgbt Presbyterians, over 50 people gathered outside the main entrance to the Convention Center, singing and joining in prayer.     [6-30-08]

The Right Reacts

by Doug King, Witherspoon WebWeaver     [6-30-08]

The 218th General Assembly took significant steps to make the Presbyterian Church (USA) more open and affirming toward its lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender members. There are, of course, many Presbyterians who are distressed – or maybe outraged is a better word – by this modest step toward justice and (we believe) authentic peace in the denomination.

We post these here partly to let the conservative side of the church speak for itself, in its own voice, to the more progressive side of the church. And we hope also to give our visitors a glimpse of the points of view and tactics which are already being set forth as the Right responds to these actions.    More >>

Heidelberg Catechism debate may heat up

Seminary faculty letter calling for better translation will help you in the debate   [6-24-08]

As you may know, the debate over restoring the Heidelberg Catechism to its original text was intense yesterday.  The good news is that it successfully got out of committee (33 to 26) and will be voted on by the full GA as soon as Wednesday. 

Very helpful material is found in the letter from the 32 seminary faculty calling for a better translation of the Heidelberg Catechism. 

Click here for the text, where you'll also find a link to a PDF version to print and share with others.

For more on the Heidelberg Catechism issue >>

Witherspoon co-moderator affirms ordination for a fully inclusive church   {6-24-08]

On Saturday morning (long, long ago!), June 21, the Witherspoon Society presented a time of orientation for commissioners and others – offering some practical hints for working effectively in the Assembly, and some perspectives on a few of the issues that, from our justice-oriented focus, seem most important.

One of those issues, of course, is the question of whether our church will truly welcome lgbt members into its life and leadership. Witherspoon Co-Moderator Jake Young presented this perspective:

Read his statement >>

Ray Bagnuolo offers careful thinking – and strong advocacy – for inclusive ordination
[6-14-08]

The Rev. Ray Bagnuolo, who describes himself as a gay Presbyterian minister of Word and Sacrament, is currently serving as interim pastor of Palisades (NY) Presbyterian Church.

Over the past few months he has posted six carefully considered and documented papers dealing with the ongoing debate about ordination of lgbt Presbyterians.

Details and links to each of the papers >>

GA backgrounder: Ordination standards
Overtures reflect PC(USA)’s division over gay and lesbian ordination
[5-31-08]

Jerry Van Marter of Presbyterian News Service summarizes the overtures coming to Assembly Committee 05, dealing with matters of ordination and sexuality. He notes that 11 of the overtures support the current prohibition of the ordination of sexually active gays and lesbians, while 11 would either scrap the ban entirely or at least loosen it.     The full story >>

Wisdom from the Scots Confession in considering the need for change of G-6.0106b
[from Doug King, 4-3-08]

Charles Forbes, former Stated Clerk of Baltimore Presbytery, has recently written about a passage in the Scots Confession which says that in what we would call disputes over faith or practice, the primary basis for making decisions must be "what the Holy Ghost uniformly speaks within the body of the Scriptures and what Christ Jesus himself did and commanded."

The Rev. Hal Porter comments that the Presbyterian Church has said the same thing more recently in a paper approved in the early 1980s on “Presbyterian Understanding and Use of Holy Scripture.” The document states that "The fundamental expression of God’s will is the two-fold commandment to love God and neighbor, and all interpretations are to be judged by the question whether they offer and support the love given and commanded by God."    More >>

Committee 5 -- Church Orders and Ministry

Dan Holloway                        Moderator - Commissioner 

Barbara Farley                        Vice-Moderator - Commissioner 

Susan Krummel                      Committee Assistant - Volunteer 

Therese Howell                      Parliamentarian/Recorder - Volunteer 

Marcia Myers                         Lead Resource Person - Staff 

Ronald Anderson                    Commissioner 

Jeanne Banks                          Commissioner 

Creighton Berry                      Commissioner 

Randall T Clayton                  Commissioner 

Andrew Cook                         Commissioner 

Sharon Core                            Commissioner 

Sylvia Dooling                       Commissioner 

Nancy Drake                          Commissioner 

Samuel Fabila                         Commissioner 

Gavin Finefield                       Commissioner 

Susan Fisher                           Commissioner 

Harlan Gilliland                      Commissioner 

Paul Granstrom                      Commissioner 

Lloyd Green                           Commissioner 

Nelson Gutierrez-Pagan         Commissioner 

Walter Hamer                         Commissioner 

Myrlene Hamilton                  Commissioner 

Mark Henslee                         Commissioner 

Myra Hester                            Commissioner 

Rebecca Hinds                        Commissioner 

Dale Johnson                          Commissioner 

Mary Jorgenson                      Commissioner 

Dianne Kareha                        Commissioner 

Eileene MacFalls                    Commissioner 

Emily McColl                         Commissioner 

Bobbi Monroe                        Commissioner 

Deborah F. Mullen                 Commissioner 

Tedd Oyler                             Commissioner 

Elizabeth Ann Peters              Commissioner 

Charlotte Poetschner              Commissioner 

Nancy Prince                          Commissioner 

David Reimer                         Commissioner 

Linda Saleeby                         Commissioner 

William Samford                    Commissioner 

Jodi Schmidt                           Commissioner 

Donald Steele                         Commissioner 

Dean Strong                            Commissioner 

Mary Ellen Summerlin           Commissioner 

Byron Wade                           Commissioner 

Burfoot Ward                         Commissioner 

John Wiley                             Commissioner 

Warren Wilkewitz                  Commissioner 

Karen Wilson                         Commissioner 

David Young                          Commissioner 

William Anderson                  Youth Advisory Delegate 

Erin Angeli                             Youth Advisory Delegate 

Robert Bruce                          Youth Advisory Delegate 

Chelsea Crowell                     Youth Advisory Delegate 

Anna Curl                               Youth Advisory Delegate 

Anna Grewe                           Youth Advisory Delegate 

Jenna Gunnoe                         Youth Advisory Delegate 

Gina Meester                          Youth Advisory Delegate 

Michelle Osman                     Youth Advisory Delegate 

Megan Reith                           Youth Advisory Delegate 

Loretta Spaulding                   Youth Advisory Delegate 

Jeffrey Schooley                     Theological Student Advisory Delegate 

Lowell Almen                        Ecumenical Advisory Delegate 

David Harrison                         

Kay Moore                             

 

 

 

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